On 2/2/23 09:57, Greg Ercolano wrote:

On 2/1/23 23:20, Robin Rowe wrote:

I am drafting a proposal for the ISO C++ standard committee to add a graphics library to the C++ language. Imagine having a GUI library as part of C++, like the STL is a standard C++ container library.

Am considering proposing FLTK be the standard C++ GUI library. What do FLTK folks think of this idea? In favor? Against? Want to be involved?

    Sounds interesting, but we're such a small team. And fltk1 doesn't really take advantage
    of the newer features of C++, which might make us.. undesireable?

    That said, if there's a need for a GUI toolkit to help people starting C++ get a GUI going
    without a lot of overhead or expectactions of "beauty", I'm thinking along the lines of how
    OpenGL needed Glut to make demos work, then perhaps it is a good fit. Also, we've been
    around pretty long, which shows staying power I suppose..!

    But hmm, it sure sounds like a reach to bring GUI stuff into the C++ language.
    Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I'd think C++ has enough trouble definining
    its own language than to bring a GUI into it. And I can't imagine a standards committee
    getting everyone to agree on how a GUI API should be defined. If they were serious,
    they'd probably look at all the GUI toolkits out there, and define a new API that
    takes the best of all of them.

    They made terrible API naming decisions though with STL.
    "push_back()" instead of append()? "vector()" instead of array? Don't get me started, lol!