Re: [fltk.coredev] Gesture progress for 1.4?

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Re: Gesture progress for 1.4? Rob McDonald 19:44 Oct 10 top right image
 
On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 11:07:43 AM UTC-7 Albrecht Schlosser wrote:
Progress report:
Unfortunately I can't test it. My MacBook Air doesn't generate gesture events on the built-in touchpad (trackpad), I don't have an external tablet device for testing, and the MacBook Air doesn't have a touchscreen. :-(

Sorry, that statement above was an error. Testing with the built-in touchpad works fine. :-(

I can now see the events and proceed...

Great! 

 
One issue I noticed so far is as I wrote before: using the touchpad with two-finger scroll gestures does no longer scroll in the FLTK test apps with the proposed macOS patch. Mouse wheel spinning does still scroll fine. This is because the touchpad gestures send the event "FL_SCROLL_GESTURE" which is unknown/ignored rather than sending "FL_MOUSEWHEEL" which would do the scrolling in, for instance, Fl_Text_Display in test/editor.

This is something we need to find a solution for (backwards compatibility).

Agreed. 

To clarify the above statement: before we can develop cross-platform events for multi-touch gestures we need to investigate what the different platforms offer. AFAICT the Windows and macOS platforms are slightly different (Linux not yet investigated).

We need a specification that can be used for all platforms. As I wrote before, the events, types, variables and values (units, magnitude, etc.) should be as close as possible on all supported platforms.

So far I can imagine two generally different approaches:

(1) We define only one FL_MULTI_TOUCH[_GESTURE] (?) event (like Microsoft does) and send different event types (pan, zoom, rotate, ...) together with some corresponding variables (maybe a struct). The user code needs to handle only one additional event but needs to dispatch the different types.

(2) We define one FLTK event per multi-touch event type. This is like the early "FL_ZOOM_GESTURE" event and the proposed patch has been done with additional events: "FL_ZOOM_GESTURE", "FL_ROTATE_GESTURE", "FL_SCROLL_GESTURE", ... and maybe more in the future.

Currently I tend to prefer (1), but I'd like to read about others' opinions.

I don't see much of a reason to prefer one over the other.

If we do (2), then we'll still have to bundle enough information to let the application determine what kind of app.  I see this weakly analogous to PUSH/DRAG/RELEASE separate from BUTTON 1,2,3 etc.  However, there we are clearly building out a matrix of capabilities -- each event can be triggered for each button.  In this case, swype, scroll, zoom, pinch, etc. seem like pretty separate events to me.

Is there an expense to having many events?

This is under investigation but links to documentation (or even code snippets) would be appreciated.

I'll keep you updated.

For X11, It looks like there are a variety of user-space tools that do gesture recognition and then pass them on to the window manager or application.  At the surface, I do not see a clear winner.

For Wayland, it seems that they use libinput https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/latest/gestures.html# -- but it proudly says that Wayland does not provide touch screen gestures, just touch pads.  Seems like an artificial wall to me...

Rob

 

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