> Greg Ercolano schrieb:
> > 	But most everyone uses the begin/end stuff in fltk;
> > 	it works well, and I've never seen it be a problem.
>
> Imho a newbie runs into problems with this nearly 100%. As soon as you
> start to write your own composite widgets without Fluid you will hit
> this problem, sooner or later. And it is really serious. Forgetting the
> end() leads to mysterious behaviour of the application. When I had this
> problem in the beginning it took me hours if not days to find the cause.

I've been using Fluid up to now and just went through the same experience!